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Subject: Re: [gislist] Hand held GPS
Date:  05/20/2005 12:50:01 PM
From:  Tripp C. Corbin



Let me second the Recon recommendation. We use it for both our GPS and
conventional survey crews with great success. Much better than the old
HP48GX collectors we used in the past.

Tripp Corbin, MCP, GISP
Associate Vice President, GIS/Mapping
ESRI Authorized Instructor
Keck & Wood, Inc.
www.keckwood.com
(678) 417-4013
(678) 417-8785 fax

Keck & Wood now offers Introduction to ArcGIS/ArcView training classes.
Contact me for more information.
Currently scheduled classes:
Introduction to ArcGIS I - May 19-20
Introduction to ArcGIS II - May 23-25








-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Ash [mailto:gmtgps@peak.org]
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 1:26 PM
To: 'David T. Hughes': 'RICK GRAY': vmichelin@hydroqual.com:
gislist@lists.thinkburst.com
Subject: Re: [gislist] Hand held GPS


Rick, Virginia, David, list

1. In regards, to running ArcPad on a PDA:

The price of the consumer grade PDAs are very affordable but the main
complaints I constantly hear are poor battery life, ease of data loss
and very limited environmental resistance (moisture, dust, heavy
bumps/drops) can yield those systems as very limited.

There is an environmentally solid PDA called the Recon
(http://www.tdsway.com/products/recon) which nicely answers these short
comings, and relative to the price of its extra robustness is reasonably
priced (especially for professional use). It has a 15 hour run time
(GPS cards will eat into this) on its standard batteries which can be
easily replaced in the field (many external power options as well). It
has several built in interface options for adding Compact Flash Cards
(GPS,memory), 9 pin serial and USB ports so you can connect with just
about anything.

The kicker is it has BUILT-IN 64MB or 128MB nonvolatile Flash storage
(you can add other Flash cards through the CF slot) and you can store
ArcPad and data files in this area, which is not battery dependent.

*** The key to running any application on a PDA is keep batteries
fresh/charged and store sensitive programs/files in a fail safe medium
such as Compact Flash or SD card. Most PDAs have these options. The
problem is most software defaults to storing programs in the PDAs memory
(this is what goes down with the battery).


Disclaimer: I am in the GPS and field PDA business so I do sell and
provide technical support and training to folks on the Recon and a
variety of other equipment. Before that raises up too many flags, Ive
been doing this for over 15 years and because I provide direct support
to my customers for what I sell, I love a product that is easy to use,
has great data integrity (data loss issues are my worst nightmare) and
is reasonably priced. In a demanding project, the Recon is worth taking
a solid look at in lieu of an IPAQ or Axim.

The retail price of a Recon 200 starts at US$1299 and Recon is 400 is
$1599.00. I can quote prices with specific configurations (including
GPS,
etc...) off list, including volume, government and educational prices to
anyone interested.

2. In regards to your Garmin units, make sure to check out the FREE
Minnesota DNR Garmin utility, which will set up as an extension and
provide a Garmin tool bar directly in AV 3.x and allow you to read/write
GPS data to/from shape files, among many other features. You can also
use it standalone. It is great and FREE (and its amazing the
non-obligatory but great support you get from the DNR if you have
questions).

http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/mis/gis/tools/arcview/extensions/DNRGarmin/DN
RGar
min.html

3. Agree with David that the power of ArcPad (and making it more
friendly to the non-GIS users) is most exposed by the Application
Development kit
(retail US$1500 for this). As out of the box solutions, there are
other
good and friendly Windows CE tools for GPS/GIS data collection as well
such as Trimble's Terrasync and TDS Solo Field.


Sincerely,



Richard Ash
GPS for Mapping/GIS Specialist
Trimble MGIS Certified Trainer

Email: gmtgps@peak.org or richard@pacificsurvey.com
Direct Tel: 541-754-3488





-----Original Message-----
From: gislist-bounces@lists.thinkburst.com
[mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.thinkburst.com] On Behalf Of RICK GRAY
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 2:17 PM
To: vmichelin@hydroqual.com: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com
Subject: Re: [gislist] Hand held GPS

Virginia,

We have used two different systems. Love the one, hate the other.

The Garmin GPSMap 60C is easy to use, easy to upload to the PC (as a
text
file) and if you buy the additional map sets to go with it, has lots and
lots of detail. I use it with ArcView 3.x and highly recommend it.

Our other system is ArcPad on an iPAQ H2210 with a HAiCOM GPS flash
antenna.

The antenna is fine, ArcPad is good if you are an ArcView user. But the
iPAQ is a pain - mainly because the battery lasts a max of 4 hours when
it is turne

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