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| Subject: | Re: [gislist] summary of responses for GIS server under $15,000 |
| Date: |
05/24/2005 09:30:01 PM |
| From: |
Kent Hargesheimer |
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I never did understand the reasoning behind the software licensing scheme
where you have to pay more to have the applications running on more
processing power. MapInfo & Oracle have used the same scheme too.
If you think about it, the whole value proposition is backwards.
It is an incentive for the application developers to make their software
LESS efficient. The slower their software is, the more money they make when
people have to buy more computing horsepower.
I'm sure it keeps the hardware vendors happy too.
Kent Hargesheimer
Geographic Enterprises
http://www.geo-e.com
tel 919.341.1535
-----Original Message-----
From: gislist-bounces@lists.thinkburst.com
[mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.thinkburst.com] On Behalf Of Analisa Gunnell
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 12:43 PM
To: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com: SCGIS@PETE.URI.EDU
Subject: [gislist] summary of responses for GIS server under $15,000
Hello dear colleagues,
I just wanted to sum the responses that I received yesterday with the
group. Special thanks go out to everyone that threw in their two cents
(Terry Jackson, Amanda Harris, Kjel Anderson, Brian Boulmay, and Ron
Salz). I did not have direct answers to my questions, especially
regarding recommended RAM for high end GIS processing, or the number of
processors, but the answers were helpful none the less. Having never
built a GIS server before, the responses were a great introduction to
the world of Server System Design (and the level of complexity).
Namely, I was told that it really depended on my organizations exact
needs. I was guided to review ESRI System Design Whitepaper at
http://www.esri.com/systemsint/kbase/strategies.html by a couple
different people. Quite the read! I'm still looking it over at this
time.
Terry Jackson had this to say:
"You may want to look at ArcGIS Server
http://www.esri.com/software/arcgis/arcgisserver/index.html
The drawback to the multiprocessor server is that when you do install
ArcSDE it will cost you more for the additional processors. Our plans
are to eventually drop back to a dual processor CPU and upgrade more
frequently.
You said in your original email that a blade server was not cost
effective. We think that it will be, at least for a dual processor
blade: you may want to look again." Thanks for the information on the
multiprocessor Terry!
Kjel had this information to share:
"I would recommend the AMD Opteron based servers from Appro. AMD has
dual-core processors out that will work in the Appro servers. This would
allow you to get quad cpu performance at dual cpu prices. He also
mentioned that the Appro are "... relatively inexpensive. I have been
using the 1124H with the Dual Opteron processors, but I would expect
that the Xeon processors are just as good. We are currently serving very
high volume ArcIMS sites on these and they have been totally great. We
use windows 2003 server and usually have two or three people connected
via terminal services while the site is running. We are using 2 GB of
RAM. Hope this helps," Thank you Kjel!
Well, that's all for now. Does anyone else have any specific feedback
on necessary RAM for 2-4 users at a time?
THANKS AGAIN TO EVERYONE!
Analisa Noel Gunnell
Chief Cartographer/GIS Analyst
Ecotrust
721 NW Ninth Avenue, Suite 200
Portland, Oregon
97209
503.467.0750
analisa@ecotrust.org
www.ecotrust.org
www.inforain.org
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