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Subject: Re: [gislist] A new idea for GIS resumes?
Date:  06/06/2005 09:25:01 AM
From:  Neil Havermale



The GIS industry is about to undergo such a fundamental shift due to its
failing requirement to demand not just skilled but certified dexterity for
creating map-centric information that I would suggest that certain
buggy-whip-centric GIS tycoons must re-think their roles.

What I believe is happening is that the environment required to build
accurate maps is no longer relegated to the GIS alchemist's smoke and shadow
show. No longer does map-making require large complex computers, specialized
labs, grey hair nor ink stained fingers. What I like is that an economist
can do spatial analysis as can an agronomist... sales-sheds are no longer
mystical glass-balls who's forecasters require a degreed certification. In
fact, I have little time these days to try to explain to so call
"geographers" uncertainty surfaces versus map illustration - my spatial
statistics eclipse your now-insignificant mappings.... We are too busy
moving on spatial information utility to debate if map making really should
be a regulated industry?

I do not see geographers as the new clinical science leading to all insights
via their referral to other GIS/geograpghy experts. They are no longer
captains of the drawers where there is only one copy of our common legacy. I
see them maybe as an information shoe salesmen who attempt to fit size and
style: do you want well fitting work boots or stylish but uncomfortable
penny-loafers for cocktailing?

Rock-on dudes...
MidNight Mapper
Aka neil



-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Lee [mailto:glee@murfreesborotn.gov]
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 7:18 AM
To: nvr2l81@excite.com: gislist@lists.geocomm.com
Subject: Re: [gislist] A new idea for GIS resumes?

"Thinking about your statement, you should be highly employable, as you
have the theoretical and academic background for GIS (so often lacking
these days), and have the knowledge to
familiarize yourself with any GIS software package because you "know"
what GIS software should be able to do. Too often one sees "must be able
to work with ArcGIS", or "must be expert in MapInfo Pro...", which is
really unfortunate - in my opinion. One can be a so-called "expert" in
ArcGIS, but if one doesn't have the theoretical/academic spatial science
background, then you're just like a performing monkey clicking on keys."

I don't respond much to this list simply because a lot of it is just
drivel. I do read most conversations though and appreciate others
insight. Thank you George, for giving, what I see as a very real
depiction throughout my experiences. I too, have run across this
mentality. I'm glad others realize this. Sounds like good solid advice
from the 60 year old "GIS" fart. He didn't get that way by accident.
Always pay attention to your elders, especially in your professional
fields.

Thanks again George,
Gerald
GIS Coordinator
Murfreesboro,Tennessee USA


-----Original Message-----
From: gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com
[mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com] On Behalf Of George
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 11:58 PM
To: gislist@lists.geocomm.com
Subject: Re: [gislist] A new idea for GIS resumes?

Jeremy:some further thoughts about your GIS job search....Why do you
feel tied down regarding the family? If you are willing to work as a
Consultant in the Middle East, the Far East, or the Americas - basically
anywhere in the world, the renumeration package usually comes with a
very generous living allowance on top of your Consulting fees,
(basically you live in "luxury"), and also any school fees for children
to attend private schools is covered. Your family may enjoy the
experience of other cultures, interests and food!The second thought...
in your email you said "I am "jack of all trades" and master of none,
having never specialised in any one GIS...BUT my GIS education was such
that I was taught to use any GIS not just one software package,...".
Interesting... it touches on my thesis topic. Thinking about your
statement, you should be highly employable, as you have the theoretical
and academic background for GIS (so often lacking these days), and have
the knowledge to
familiarize yourself with any GIS software package because you "know"
what GIS software should be able to do. Too often one sees "must be able
to work with ArcGIS", or "must be expert in MapInfo Pro...", which is
really unfortunate - in my opinion. One can be a so-called "expert" in
ArcGIS, but if one doesn't have the theoretical/academic spatial science
background, then you're just like a performing monkey clicking on keys.I
think a lot of the confusion comes from the term "GIS" being used not
only to name the software tools that implement it, but also the body of
knowledge that is related to spatial science that is the backbone of
GIS. It all depends on whether one ask

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