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Subject: Re: [gislist] masters vs. certificate
Date:  06/16/2005 10:55:01 AM
From:  Anthony Quartararo



I would suggest that ESRI does not yet have a 90% stranglehold on the global
industry, last number I saw was 65-70%. So there are plenty of non-ESRI
related jobs out there, many of them actually pay a whole lot more than
comparable ESRI-related jobs (remember, along with ESRI's dominance on the
market, the skills sets you learn from their technology make you pretty-darn
close to a "commodity" vs. more high-value skills- and before all the
ESRItes flame me, there is nothing derogatory there, it is simply reality,
and not to suggest that there are no high-value ESRI people) Secondly, by a
show of hands, who has time today to go back and get serious about a true
Master's program while holding down a full-time job and all of life's other
responsiblities.

Regards,

Anthony

-----Original Message-----
From: gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com
[mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com] On Behalf Of Smith Travis G Civ
56 RMO/GIS
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 11:41 AM
To: Dean P Chauvin: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com
Subject: Re: [gislist] masters vs. certificate

Hi Dean,

Get a job in the GIS industry FIRST! This experience will far exceed a
graduate degree and/or a certificate in regards to your future
"marketability". Once you are working, and ready, then proceed on to your
graduate degree (and then maybe the certificate). At this point, a
certificate won't get you much more than a second look by about 5% of
industry employers.

Also, remember, nearly 9/10 jobs in the industry require ESRI-related
experience. If you want job/industry experience, get a job using these
products. Trust me, you, and the family you support will thank you!

Good luck!
T

Travis G. Smith - C.M.S.
Sr. GIS Engineer
USAF 56 RMO/ESM
7224 N. 139th Dr.
Luke AFB, AZ 85309
(623) 856-3823 x.270
(623) 856-8409 Fax


-----Original Message-----
From: gislist-bounces@lists.thinkburst.com
[mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.thinkburst.com] On Behalf Of Dean P Chauvin
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 6:49 AM
To: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com
Subject: [gislist] masters vs. certificate

Hello everyone. I am excited as this is my first post to this forum.

I'm trying to decide what my next step should be. I am currently a lab
technician (non-GIS work) with a bachelors degree in conservation biology.
I am sold on GIS and want to pursue the rest of my career based on this
technology. I'm debating between getting a full-blown masters degree or
going after a GIS certification. I've talked to people on both sides of the
fence that offer different opinions on my best course of action. Right now
I am leaning towards completing a certificate so I can get a job sooner, but
I don't want to limit my opportunities by not going all the way and getting
a masters. What can you suggest to me? Do GIS employers generally look for
people with lots of diplomas or with years of experience? Also, I'm looking
for the right institution to apply to. Currently, I'm interested in Hunter
College (City University of New York) which offers both a masters in GIS and
a certification program.

Any and all suggestions will be appreciated!

Thanks.

--

Dean P Chauvin Jr.
Louisiana Universities Marine Consortium
8124 Highway 56
Chauvin, LA 70344-2124
Office (985)223-7421
Fax (985)851-2874
http://www.lumcon.edu

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