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| Subject: | Re: [gislist] masters vs. certificate |
| Date: |
06/16/2005 10:55:01 AM |
| From: |
McGuyer William C Contr 88 ABW/CEVO |
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Thank you Anthony for knocking down that statistic's number a bit...
Bill McGuyer
Northrop Grumman IT
Environmental Management Division
Wright-Patterson AFB
Office: 937.257.7039
Cell: 937.623.8766
Email: william.mcguyer@wpafb.af.mil
-----Original Message-----
From: gislist-bounces@lists.thinkburst.com [mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.thinkburst.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Quartararo
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 11:52 AM
To: 'Smith Travis G Civ 56 RMO/GIS': 'Dean P Chauvin': gislist@lists.thinkburst.com
Subject: Re: [gislist] masters vs. certificate
I would suggest that ESRI does not yet have a 90% stranglehold on the global industry, last number I saw was 65-70%. So there are plenty of non-ESRI related jobs out there, many of them actually pay a whole lot more than comparable ESRI-related jobs (remember, along with ESRI's dominance on the market, the skills sets you learn from their technology make you pretty-darn close to a "commodity" vs. more high-value skills- and before all the ESRItes flame me, there is nothing derogatory there, it is simply reality, and not to suggest that there are no high-value ESRI people) Secondly, by a show of hands, who has time today to go back and get serious about a true Master's program while holding down a full-time job and all of life's other responsiblities.
Regards,
Anthony
-----Original Message-----
From: gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com
[mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com] On Behalf Of Smith Travis G Civ
56 RMO/GIS
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 11:41 AM
To: Dean P Chauvin: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com
Subject: Re: [gislist] masters vs. certificate
Hi Dean,
Get a job in the GIS industry FIRST! This experience will far exceed a graduate degree and/or a certificate in regards to your future "marketability". Once you are working, and ready, then proceed on to your graduate degree (and then maybe the certificate). At this point, a certificate won't get you much more than a second look by about 5% of industry employers.
Also, remember, nearly 9/10 jobs in the industry require ESRI-related experience. If you want job/industry experience, get a job using these products. Trust me, you, and the family you support will thank you!
Good luck!
T
Travis G. Smith - C.M.S.
Sr. GIS Engineer
USAF 56 RMO/ESM
7224 N. 139th Dr.
Luke AFB, AZ 85309
(623) 856-3823 x.270
(623) 856-8409 Fax
-----Original Message-----
From: gislist-bounces@lists.thinkburst.com
[mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.thinkburst.com] On Behalf Of Dean P Chauvin
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 6:49 AM
To: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com
Subject: [gislist] masters vs. certificate
Hello everyone. I am excited as this is my first post to this forum.
I'm trying to decide what my next step should be. I am currently a lab technician (non-GIS work) with a bachelors degree in conservation biology.
I am sold on GIS and want to pursue the rest of my career based on this technology. I'm debating between getting a full-blown masters degree or going after a GIS certification. I've talked to people on both sides of the fence that offer different opinions on my best course of action. Right now I am leaning towards completing a certificate so I can get a job sooner, but I don't want to limit my opportunities by not going all the way and getting a masters. What can you suggest to me? Do GIS employers generally look for people with lots of diplomas or with years of experience? Also, I'm looking for the right institution to apply to. Currently, I'm interested in Hunter College (City University of New York) which offers both a masters in GIS and a certification program.
Any and all suggestions will be appreciated!
Thanks.
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Dean P Chauvin Jr.
Louisiana Universities Marine Consortium
8124 Highway 56
Chauvin, LA 70344-2124
Office (985)223-7421
Fax (985)851-2874
http://www.lumcon.edu
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