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Subject: Re: [gislist] masters vs. certificate
Date:  06/16/2005 10:55:01 AM
From:  McGuyer William C Contr 88 ABW/CEVO



There are other software packages out there too, not just ESRI. This list is a GIS list, not an ESRI list. Many organizations and GIS shops use a mixed environment of software. Learn the technology and you can apply that knowledge to just about any GIS product. Learn about open systems technology, database management, project management, maybe a little programming, and the basics of GIS and you will be very marketable in this industry. In my many years of GIS experience, I have worn many hats. GIS is much more than just analyzing geospatial data, much more.

Good luck Dean. Experience in any professional field will get you further than any degree or certificate. However, if you can afford to get the degree first, you will more likely want to get that degree now while you are excited about it. You will undoubtedly get many varying types of advice. Do what you can afford and makes sense to YOU.

Sincerely,

Bill McGuyer
Northrop Grumman IT
Environmental Management Division
Wright-Patterson AFB
Office: 937.257.7039
Cell: 937.623.8766
Email: william.mcguyer@wpafb.af.mil

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From: gislist-bounces@lists.thinkburst.com [mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.thinkburst.com] On Behalf Of Smith Travis G Civ 56 RMO/GIS
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 11:41 AM
To: Dean P Chauvin: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com
Subject: Re: [gislist] masters vs. certificate

Hi Dean,

Get a job in the GIS industry FIRST! This experience will far exceed a graduate degree and/or a certificate in regards to your future "marketability". Once you are working, and ready, then proceed on to your graduate degree (and then maybe the certificate). At this point, a certificate won't get you much more than a second look by about 5% of industry employers.

Also, remember, nearly 9/10 jobs in the industry require ESRI-related experience. If you want job/industry experience, get a job using these products. Trust me, you, and the family you support will thank you!

Good luck!
T

Travis G. Smith - C.M.S.
Sr. GIS Engineer
USAF 56 RMO/ESM
7224 N. 139th Dr.
Luke AFB, AZ 85309
(623) 856-3823 x.270
(623) 856-8409 Fax


-----Original Message-----
From: gislist-bounces@lists.thinkburst.com
[mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.thinkburst.com] On Behalf Of Dean P Chauvin
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 6:49 AM
To: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com
Subject: [gislist] masters vs. certificate

Hello everyone. I am excited as this is my first post to this forum.

I'm trying to decide what my next step should be. I am currently a lab technician (non-GIS work) with a bachelors degree in conservation biology. I am sold on GIS and want to pursue the rest of my career based on this technology. I'm debating between getting a full-blown masters degree or going after a GIS certification. I've talked to people on both sides of the fence that offer different opinions on my best course of action. Right now I am leaning towards completing a certificate so I can get a job sooner, but I don't want to limit my opportunities by not going all the way and getting a masters. What can you suggest to me? Do GIS employers generally look for people with lots of diplomas or with years of experience? Also, I'm looking for the right institution to apply to. Currently, I'm interested in Hunter College (City University of New York) which offers both a masters in GIS and a certification program.

Any and all suggestions will be appreciated!

Thanks.

--

Dean P Chauvin Jr.
Louisiana Universities Marine Consortium
8124 Highway 56
Chauvin, LA 70344-2124
Office (985)223-7421
Fax (985)851-2874
http://www.lumcon.edu

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