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| Subject: | Re: [gislist] masters vs. certificate |
| Date: |
06/17/2005 07:10:01 AM |
| From: |
William Medina |
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Hi:
I have never liked this type of discussions but I decided to post my
experience. I believe it all comes to the type of company that your are
working for and their willingness to be committed to employees. Mine has
used the may lack of a certification as an excuse not to promote me to a
higher level although I have been in charge of many jobs and many people to
deserve been at a higher level, but taking advantage of my immigrant status
they are "requesting" me to have a certification in my area of expertise. It
is not hard to do it, it just takes time, but I think that once I get the
certification they will find another "condition" that has not been satisfied
so another request will be ask.
In some companies you can be hired based on your experience, and as long as
the company has an interest in you, they will hold you as low cost as they
can. Some others will look at your degrees and experience and they will hold
you as inexpensive as they can as long as you are useful. But some other
will look at the real professional you are and will encourage you to learn
more and improve your experience with good educational programs and good
incentives (including growing in your company, money reward, etc). My
suggestion to you is look at the companies first, get an overall sense of
which type of company you are enrolling to, I believe the last type I
mentioned are the best ones and those you should focus on, the others are
not worth to stay too much longer.
Bill,
-----Original Message-----
From: gislist-bounces@lists.thinkburst.com
[mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.thinkburst.com]On Behalf Of Daniel Stevens
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 11:15 PM
To: 'ross s': gislist@lists.thinkburst.com
Subject: Re: [gislist] masters vs. certificate
Hi Ross/gislist,
There are many countries that are tuition free, and unlike Canada and the
USA, you generally have to be intelligent to get into university in these
places. A number of these countries (Finland, for example) even offer
international students free tuition to many programmes, and at the graduate
level you can often complete these in English.
While I have not heard good or bad regarding the Lund University MGIS (or
whatever it is formally called) mentioned in the email below, I do know that
it is from a reputable university. I know people who have gone there
including people who have obtained their Ph.D. there (although not in GIS).
While a free on-line programme in the USA or Canada does sound a bit fishy
(though not necessarily bad), such programmes elsewhere may be more
legitimate. Of course, you are right to suggest they should be investigated
first.
Daniel
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Daniel Stevens
Spatial Analysis and Modelling Lab
Department of Geography, Simon Fraser University
8888 University Drive, Burnaby, BC, V5A 1S6, Canada
Lab: RCB 6118, +1.604.291.5628
e-mail: daniel_stevens@sfu.ca
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gislist-bounces@lists.thinkburst.com
> [mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.thinkburst.com] On Behalf Of ross s
> Sent: June 16, 2005 8:45 AM
> To: Terseer Sarwuan
> Cc: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com
> Subject: Re: [gislist] masters vs. certificate
>
> Hi,
>
> I would question the value in doing a free master's degree.
> Sounds fishy to me -- I watch an article on tv last night
> regrading online degree programs and how much credibility to
> provide. The article discussed a "school" out of Wyoming -
> now the Bahamas called Richardson.
>
> Prior to enroling in any school I would check with the
> community to ensure the credentials will be recognized. Just
> my two cents.
>
> Ross
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Terseer Sarwuan <sarwuant@yahoo.com>
> Date: Thursday, June 16, 2005 8:43 am
> Subject: Re: [gislist] masters vs. certificate
>
> > Dean,
> >
> > You can be right there in your office but still pursue a Master's
> > programme in GIS free of charge. I am currently doing this
> programme
> > and I can attest to the fact that it is well loaded and you
> will enjoy
> > every bit of it as it is completely hand-on. Try this websit
> > http://www.giscentrum.lu.se/luma-gis/index.htm. It is a Swedish
> > University, the programme is conducted in English and is
> tuition free.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Terseer
> >
> >
> > Dean P Chauvin <dchauvin@lumcon.edu> wrote:
> > Hello everyone. I am excited as this is my first post to this forum.
> >
> > I'm trying to decide what my next step should be. I am
> currently a lab
> > technician (non-GIS work) with a bachelors degree in conservation
> > biology. I am sold on GIS and want to pursue the rest of my career
> > based on this technology. I'm debating between getting a
> f
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