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| Subject: | [gislist] How about tracking a group of Hikers in real-time? |
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07/05/2005 12:30:02 PM |
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Mark Martens |
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Bill: Sounds like you know a lot about this space. I am interested in finding out what it would take to build a system to track a group of hikers over a wide area, say like a 24-hour eco-challenge. I have the software that wil place them in a virtual location, I just need the GPS transmitter receiver and of things.
Do you think you could point me towards some useful information sources? Mark
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1. realtime vehicle tracking (Simmonds, Ashley (DTEI)) 2. Re: realtime vehicle tracking (Bill Diaz) 3. Calculating a string as a number? (Matt Bachman) 4. Re: Calculating a string as a number? (Zach Travis)
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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:27:50 +0930 From: "Simmonds, Ashley (DTEI)" Subject: [gislist] realtime vehicle tracking To: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com Message-ID: <9D1D8F15E14032438253BB94449EE25703686A08@sagemsg0005.sagemsmrd01.sa.gov.au>
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sure this has been discussed before. could someone point some fingers at where some step-by-steps in this arena might be located...
i've been researching APRS a bit, and am already good with GIS and stuff, but i need to get a good handle on how to transmit a GPS signal from a fleet of cars, and recieve that signal into my application.
danke ash simmonds
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Message: 2 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 07:55:50 -0500 From: "Bill Diaz" Subject: Re: [gislist] realtime vehicle tracking To: "'Simmonds, Ashley (DTEI)'" ,
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Ash, See below:
>-----Original Message----- >From: gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com >[mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com] On Behalf Of >Simmonds, Ashley (DTEI) >Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 03:58 >To: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com >Subject: [gislist] realtime vehicle tracking >
>sure this has been discussed before. could someone point some >fingers at >where some step-by-steps in this arena might be located... > >i've been researching APRS a bit, and am already good with GIS >and stuff, >but i need to get a good handle on how to transmit a GPS >signal from a fleet >of cars, and recieve that signal into my application.
Step by step information for commercial AVL system design is hard to come by, since many companies use proprietary systems and methods. Methods of transmitting and receiving a signal from a fleet can vary considerably. An APRS like system may not be suitable for commerical application for a variety of reasons.
APRS (Amateur Position Reporting System) is used by Radio Amateurs World-Wide to report postions of various mobile and fixed assets. However, it has some serious drawbacks. Position reports do not require or expect an ack. There is no way of knowing if the position information reached the desired destination. Often, a position report collides with a postion report from another station, and both position reports are lost since there is no retry mechanism for position reports.
Commercial AVL systems generally have robust protocols to ensure information is delivered to the intended destination or is stored locally for later transmission or download.
The key to a successful AVL systems is a dependable communications system which covers the intended market area. If the market area is small, a single base station may suffice and costs can be somewhat reasonable. If the market area is larger than can be covered by a single base station, costs can quickly escalate. Many AVL systems in the US utilize existing cellular networks to carry information since the captial costs are mimimal compared to a dedicated system. Most networks claim 95% coverage in the US. Microburst and Cellemetry offer data services which utilitze the control channel of cellular systems to allow subscribers to relay limited amounts of data. Other commercial services are available as well.
Several AVL systems do not use radio at all. They simply log position information into an onboard computer for later download to an AVL system. Some are hybrid systems. They store location information until they come in range of the AVL radio system and then send the stored information.
Asset position information can be sent or stor
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