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Subject: Re: [gislist] How to calculate the average annual rainfall from 33rd and 67th percentiles grid data
Date:  08/30/2005 06:45:02 AM
From:  William Thayer



Could you clarify a couple of points:

1. The data set consists of 492 296 grid cells?
2. What do each of the columns and rows in your data set represent? I
assume that there is more than one grid cell associated with each farm(?)
3. You have one value for the 33rd and 67th percentile for each farm or
each grid cell?
4. The min, max, mean and standard deviation you report are for the 33rd
and 67th percentiles for each farm, grid cell or over the entire data set?

Bill


At 06:25 PM 8/30/2005 +1000, you wrote:
>Leonie,
>Am I correct in assuming that the data are collected from a range of
>farms and not concentrated in a few locations? If randomly collected
>from a number of farms, the calculations used for obtaining a percentile
>require that the data is derived from a normal distribution. Given that
>you've indicated that the data are skewed, you may have enough
>_randomly _derived samples (n>100) to invoke the central limit theorum.
>If so, the following formula would provide any percentile required. If
>not, you'll need to obtain more data.
>Order the data from lowest to highest values and use the formula:
>n x p/100
>where n = sample size, and p = desired percentile. If the result is not
>an integer, round up to next integer. This is the ranked sample that
>equates with the percentile.
>
>Hope this helps.
>Rgrds
>Claire deLacey
>
>Leonie Meiring wrote:
>
> >Dear Listers
> >
> >How does one calculate the average annual rainfall if only the 33rd
> >percentile and 67the percentile is known along with the mean and standard
> >deviation?
> >
> >I have 2 grid annual rainfall datasets, one for the 33rd percentile (dry
> >season) and one for the 67th percentile (wet season). I have a list of
> >farms for which I need the average annual rainfall. For example:
> >
> >For one farm the 33rd annual rainfall percentile = 434.3535 mm. There are
> >492 296 columns and rows in the whole dataset with a mean of 299.9189 and
> >standard deviation of 135.5186.
> >The Min value is 60.4778 and the Max value is 981.5317 for the whole
> >dataset.
> >
> >The 67th annual rainfall percentile = 552.0655 mm. There are again 492 296
> >columns and rows in the whole dataset with a mean of 433.3182 and standard
> >deviation of 173.31943.
> >The Min value is 80.0178 and the Max value is 1305.12377 for the whole
> >dataset.
> >
> >>From the histograms it would appear that the data is not symmetrical -
> >leaning more towards the left (sorry, I am not a statistician).
> >
> >Could one still use the following: (67th percentile + 33rd percentile) / 2
> >to get the annual average rainfall i.e. 50th percentile which would be in
> >the above-mentioned case (552.0655 + 434.3535) / 2 = 493.2095 mm or is there
> >another formula one can use?
> >
> >Your help and advice is much appreciated.
> >
> >Kind regards
> >
> >Leonie Meiring
> >Department of Agriculture
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>Claire deLacey
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William C. Thayer, Ph.D., P.E.
Environmental Science Center
Syracuse Research Corporation
thayer@syrres.com
Phone: 315-452-8424 Fax: x8440
web: http://esc.syrres.com/geosem/


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