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Subject: Re: [gislist] GoogleMaps?
Date:  10/21/2005 12:05:02 PM
From:  Jackson, Jonah



I work in the environmental engineering GIS field (hazardous waste,
superfund...managing a sites environmental data). And I don't expect
google to force me out of a job. though it will definitely have some
effect (the other day I was tempted to use a google aerial photo for a
quick site map, till I read their usage agreement). There will still be
a need for someone to build a site GIS, including up-to-date aerial
photos (not few years old ones), detailed topo maps (perhaps from
surveyor), and really localized GIS features that google will probably
not have, even in the next few years. also linking site-specific
analytical data with the GIS and delivering ineteractive GIS solutions
to clients for decision making will be something requiring GIS
professionals. just providing my thoughts on my particular industry.

Jonah jackson

-----Original Message-----
From: gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com
[mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com] On Behalf Of Frank Warmerdam
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 12:15 PM
To: Anthony Quartararo
Cc: Adena.Schutzberg@directionsmag.com: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com
Subject: Re: [gislist] GoogleMaps?

On 10/21/05, Anthony Quartararo <ajq3@spatialnetworks.com> wrote:
> It's my opinion that Google will continue to add content, and
eventually
> make GoogleEarth free too, and never charge a fee for it, even for
> industrial strength, commercial "for-profit" applications. They will
> however, even if not yet determined, find a business model that
involves
> advertising revenues, that will "pay" for all this, and they will
simply
> ignore anyone using GoogleMaps in a commercial application.
>
> So, what's wrong with this picture? Nothing. However, ...

Anthony,

I think one aspect you are missing is that the data companies
(ie. DigitalGlobe, etc) will not put up with this picture indefinately.
If Google doesn't enforce their usage restrictions, then the data
companies will apply pressure to Google.

One interesting possibliity is that Google might just purchase an
unlimited license for the data it wants. They may have to settle
for "second best" data in some cases in order to get the right
to use as they wish, but if this happens it could really have an
effect.

> What we don't see in the landscape are things like "desktop GIS",
"GIS", or
> even "OGC" [note to the faithful: not a dig], and so, what will we [as
an
> entrenched, slow moving, traditional industry] do when the only place
people
> go (practically speaking) for anything geospatial will be the virtual
> (mammoth) googleplex... ?

To be honest I don't see googlemaps mashups replacing the need for
enterprise gis for folks doing resources, facilities or other
infrastructure
mapping work. A municipality can't use googlemaps as the cadastral
database.

I see googlemaps putting pressure on data companies (it is getting
harder to sell the same data many times), and on "casual" mapping
applications.

Best regards,
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I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam,
warmerdam@pobox.com
light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam
and watch the world go round - Rush | Geospatial Programmer for Rent
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