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Subject: Re: [gislist] GoogleMaps or VE Maps
Date:  10/21/2005 01:50:01 PM
From:  Dean Stoecker



Thanks for the plug Anthony but the URL is www.extendthereach.com for SRC.
But now that you got my attention, take a look at these:

http://65.39.85.13/virtualearth/ve.htm 2 hours to develop
http://65.39.85.13/google/default.htm 2 hours to develop
Perhaps it is not really about the map, but rather the data and how that
data gets served up? Google, MapPoint, MapQuest...take your pick. It is
really more about all the stuff that happens around the map that makes the
metaphor tell a story.
And for the more advanced user, try www.DemographicsNow.com . While the
Open Source aspect to the API's might be new, the speed and flexibility are
not. This app has been around for 6 years and includes batch geocoding,
wall to wall aerials as raster underlay's to vector maps, 3000 variables,
polygon editing, filtering and much more. Fact of the matter is that the
mapping space is changing as Anthony says...at an accelerated pace. The
audience is enormous, potential apps endless and the time to market quite
short. The next few months are going to be quite exciting as the new web
mapping guys take the gloves off.

Dean Stoecker
SRC, LLC
190 South Glassell
Suite 201
Orange, California 92866
Phone 714-516-2400 Extension 202
Fax 714-516-2410
www.extendthereach.com

SRC in Action:
www.DemographicsNow.com




-----Original Message-----
From: gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com
[mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Quartararo
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 10:27 AM
To: kw@pat.ca: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com
Subject: Re: [gislist] GoogleMaps?

Kevin,

Indeed, how to make money using it or not using it (by providing value over
and above, either with or without GoogleMaps). The pace, in face, the
acceleration of, solutions using GoogleMaps is astonishing. FastCompany has
a great article this month on the secrets to Google's success (besides the
obvious). Another point re: Google suggested that their engineers and
tinkerers are "free" from the normal business constraints of justifying the
R&D by potential market, and they make that determination based on other
organizational principles that align (or not) with the mission, and then, if
the new idea passes that threshhold, another group of brainiacs finds a
business model (some iteration of advertising) that works with it and takes
it to the next level, eventually finding its way to the public debut.

Content is kind. If Google can't find someone to provide "it" so that they
can make $$ from it, then my bet is that they will make it themselves if the
economic model is compelling enough. Amazon's A9.com BlockView technology
is very cool, 20 million store front images linked to location, but compared
to Google, it's uptake is a footnote in history and its only 6 months old or
so.

I can see a time, not so far away, where everything you search for on Google
will be spatially-related, that is, tied to a GoogleMap in one form or
another. As covered by Adena today, eatnow.com actually performs some "very
GIS" analysis by perform point in poly analysis, and then gives a map or
listings of restaurants that deliver to a particular address. How cool is
that! SRC.com uses googlemaps to publish census data in an nice interface
that is fast, relevant and free of the bells and whistles that cost
thousands of dollars a year. Hundreds, if not thousands of other niche
applications are in the works right now as this thread grows, and indeed,
some will be making money, even if only on the coattails of google.

Anthony

-----Original Message-----
From: gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com
[mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Whitlock
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 1:12 PM
To: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com
Subject: Re: [gislist] GoogleMaps?

Ahhh! Finally someone started a thread that reflects what we in the office
have been talking about for weeks...namely, where does Google Earth fit into
the traditional GIS, mapping and geomatics industry? Or rather, what can't
it provide that we can? Or, more truthfully, can we make some money from
this?

The bottom line is data. Fidelity, accuracy, relevancy, locality, etc. etc.

However, provide an open source API and more methods to add your own data
(layers) or methods to include Google Earth in other applications...?

Kevin
www.pat.ca
-----Original Message-----
From: gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com
[mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com] On Behalf Of Frank Warmerdam
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 9:15 AM
To: Anthony Quartararo
Cc: Adena.Schutzberg@directionsmag.com: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com
Subject: Re: [gislist] GoogleMaps?

On 10/21/05, Anthony Quartararo <ajq3@spatialnetworks.com> wrote:
> It's my opinion that Google will continue to add content, and
> eventually make GoogleEarth free too, and never charge a fee for it,
> even for industrial strength, comme

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