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Subject: Re: [gislist] GoogleMaps?
Date:  10/21/2005 03:15:02 PM
From:  Anthony Quartararo



Sonny,

Good, glad to see actual deployments, but, don't know what the full breadth
and depth of that component is with all the other neat stuff on the
katrinaimagery.org site, and really not all that important. My suggestion
was really that Google will consume and implement anything that it sees as
furthering its immediate and strategic plans, and will not twiddle its
fingers waiting for an organization like OGC (or ISO, or others) to mandate
what it should use by way of technology implementation. There is little
doubt that Google is THE search standard by which all others are measured,
and it did not become that by consensus of an industry metaorganization.
Sure, it leverages technologies and protocol and infrastructure created and
built by "standards-based organizations", not intending to stir another "go
nowhere" diatribe re: OGC, however, my point is that the market decided to
put google at the top, and there are few and far between companies, let
alone "consensus" organizations in the world that can respond to market
conditions such as Google can, all the while dealing with and managing
explosive growth. ESRI is 30 years old, Intergraph, Smallworld, Autodesk,
MapInfo all younger, but not by much, and many would still say they are
"lumbering dinosaurs". Google is barely 7 years old, and the curve really
only started to turn "north" in the past 36 months. If OGC products benefit
this evolution, I am sure Google will implement them, but not at the expense
of a voracious business appetite. It will be hard for OGC to claim
stewardship of the "cornerstone" of geospatial technology in 15 years at
this rate. Again, not trying to dig or fling dirt, but simply my
observations and without feedback, which is appreciated, those observations
go unchecked. Cheers.

Anthony

-----Original Message-----
From: Sonny Parafina [mailto:sonny@ionicenterprise.com]
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 2:43 PM
To: Anthony Quartararo
Cc: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com: Adena.Schutzberg@DirectionsMag.com
Subject: Re: [gislist] GoogleMaps?

Anthony Quartararo wrote:
>
> What we don't see in the landscape are things like "desktop GIS",
> "GIS", or even "OGC" [note to the faithful: not a dig], and so, what
> will we [as an entrenched, slow moving, traditional industry] do when
> the only place people go (practically speaking) for anything
> geospatial will be the virtual
> (mammoth) googleplex... ?
>

Actually, OGC systems are at the forefront of google maps / google earth
integration. There are many examples on the bbs.keyhole.com board of GE
using WMS services and we are starting to see simple WFS integration.
The slow adoption of WFS is probably due to the fact that you need the
enterprise version of GE to fully use all the data encoded in GML.
There are sites such as www.katrinaimagery.org that use a WMS backend for
google earth and a typical static map client.

All this validates the robustness of the OGC architecture since integration
can be quite trivial, especially for WMS. I'm not sure about the rest of
y'all but for me, the death knell for desktop gis as the only spatial tool
sounded about 1993. Sure there will always be GIS operators as well as
COBOL programmers, but the future of mass distribution of geospatial data
and services lies in those vendors committed to a service oriented
architecture such as OGC.

sonny




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