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Subject: Re: [gislist] GoogleMaps?
Date:  10/24/2005 03:20:07 PM
From:  Larry F. Holt



Mailloop somewhere? What is the Thinkburst address?

Larry Holt
Director of Research
Birmingham Regional Chamber of Commerce


> -----Original Message-----
> From: gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com
> [mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com] On Behalf Of
> ajq3@spatialnetworks.com
> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 2:57 PM
> To: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com
> Subject: Re: [gislist] GoogleMaps?
>
> All the time, no problems here, my gripe with that component
> is the lack of truly global resolution at 1m...but that is
> because I am not patient...even by internet-years...
>
> A true benchmark should be done to test this for a variety of
> bandwidths, so the analysis is "apples to apples" and the
> anecdotal rhetoric, however valuable, is not the only evidence. :-)
>
> Anthony
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com
> [mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com] On Behalf Of Landon Blake
> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 1:08 PM
> To: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com
> Subject: Re: [gislist] GoogleMaps?
>
> Have you ever waited for imagery to load on Google Maps?
>
> My desktop GIS is a lot faster......
>
> The Sunburned Surveyor
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com
> [mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com] On Behalf Of Jackson, Jonah
> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 10:02 AM
> To: Frank Warmerdam: Anthony Quartararo
> Cc: Adena.Schutzberg@directionsmag.com: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com
> Subject: Re: [gislist] GoogleMaps?
>
> I work in the environmental engineering GIS field (hazardous
> waste, superfund...managing a sites environmental data). And
> I don't expect google to force me out of a job. though it
> will definitely have some effect (the other day I was tempted
> to use a google aerial photo for a quick site map, till I
> read their usage agreement). There will still be a need for
> someone to build a site GIS, including up-to-date aerial
> photos (not few years old ones), detailed topo maps (perhaps
> from surveyor), and really localized GIS features that google
> will probably not have, even in the next few years.
> also linking site-specific analytical data with the GIS and
> delivering ineteractive GIS solutions to clients for decision
> making will be something requiring GIS professionals. just
> providing my thoughts on my particular industry.
>
> Jonah jackson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com
> [mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com] On Behalf Of Frank
> Warmerdam
> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 12:15 PM
> To: Anthony Quartararo
> Cc: Adena.Schutzberg@directionsmag.com: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com
> Subject: Re: [gislist] GoogleMaps?
>
> On 10/21/05, Anthony Quartararo <ajq3@spatialnetworks.com> wrote:
> > It's my opinion that Google will continue to add content, and
> eventually
> > make GoogleEarth free too, and never charge a fee for it, even for
> > industrial strength, commercial "for-profit" applications.
> They will
> > however, even if not yet determined, find a business model that
> involves
> > advertising revenues, that will "pay" for all this, and they will
> simply
> > ignore anyone using GoogleMaps in a commercial application.
> >
> > So, what's wrong with this picture? Nothing. However, ...
>
> Anthony,
>
> I think one aspect you are missing is that the data companies (ie.
> DigitalGlobe, etc) will not put up with this picture indefinately.
> If Google doesn't enforce their usage restrictions, then the
> data companies will apply pressure to Google.
>
> One interesting possibliity is that Google might just
> purchase an unlimited license for the data it wants. They
> may have to settle for "second best"
> data in some cases in order to get the right to use as they
> wish, but if this happens it could really have an effect.
>
> > What we don't see in the landscape are things like "desktop GIS",
> "GIS", or
> > even "OGC" [note to the faithful: not a dig], and so, what
> will we [as
> an
> > entrenched, slow moving, traditional industry] do when the
> only place
> people
> > go (practically speaking) for anything geospatial will be
> the virtual
> > (mammoth) googleplex... ?
>
> To be honest I don't see googlemaps mashups replacing the
> need for enterprise gis for folks doing resources, facilities
> or other infrastructure mapping work. A municipality can't
> use googlemaps as the cadastral database

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