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Subject: Re: [gislist] gislist Digest, Vol 42, Issue 6 - GIS policy
Date:  01/14/2007 01:10:01 AM
From:  Kate Lance



Regarding the question about OMB-16..... " >Is there a place for OMB A-16 and the National Map on this site? Or is >there a place for how each state handles GIS policy?"

The Legal and Economic Working Group of the Global Spatial Data Infrastructure Association (GSDI) has a Discussion List that is meant to cover the realm of GI policy, intellectual property rights, legislation, institutional and organizational concerns, SDI business models, etc..... but with list members from around the world, not just the US. http://www.gsdi.org/discussionlists.asp

For information on GI policy in US states, the state summaries by the National States Geographic Information Council (NSGIC, http://www.nsgic.org/) provide infromation, as does the US Federal Geographic Data Committee (FGDC) Fifty States Initiative - http://www.fgdc.gov/policyandplanning/50states/index_html/?searchterm=fifty%20states


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1. FW: kids and mapping (Landon Blake)
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4. Re: kids and mapping (Trish Long)
5. Re: FW: kids and mapping (Barbara Seekins)
6. Re: FW: kids and mapping (Chip Westbrook)
7. Anthropological Topic? Concept of Space? (DickBoyd@aol.com)
8. Re: FW: kids and mapping (DickBoyd@aol.com)
9. Re: Protocol for citing sources of data? (DickBoyd@aol.com)
10. Re: Switching from standalone to floating licenses of ArcView
9.2 (Margaret Gooding)
11. Re: Protocol for citing sources of data? (Chip Westbrook)


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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 13:50:31 -0500
From: John Callahan <diodata@UDel.Edu>
Subject: Re: [gislist] TOOL or Science Re: topic change
To: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com
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I'm sure you are correct that some folks are tired of getting tool
questions, just as some folks are tired of getting GIS ethical,
philosophical, and every other type of post that comes across this
list. Personally, I love them all and I think this leads directly to
why so many of us are enamored with GIS in the first place.

Unless specifically restricted, a GIS list should interpret the "S" in
any way that's appropriate: Systems, Science, Studies, Services. These
are all completely valid interpretations yet each brings a different
(not unique) set of applications and methods with it. When asked what
does GIS stand for (which happens quite frequently to me), I usually say
that in the past it was an acronym for Geographic Information Systems,
but I have no idea what it stands for any longer. I like the thought
that it doesn't represent any one particular phrase. If I talk about
the software, I usually use GISystems. If I talk about social
implications or responses to GI, I usually use GIStudies. If I talk
about how and why GI is used and to what end, I usually just use GIS and
call it a day.

There could be separate lists for science vs tool posts, but that
quickly leads us to ambiguity (e.g., a response to a tool question has a
science-based answer: posts that fall in neither science nor tool
categories.) I enjoy the lists that include all types of postings, such
as this one. Since most people's introduction to GIS is through
software, most questions will be about the software. I don't foresee
that changing. The call should be made by the list owner. Whatever the
original intention of the list, that's the rules we should play by.
There are plenty of other lists with specific purposes you can join.

The science vs tool debate has always been very interesting. I guess
it's dependent upon how you treat the "S" in GIS. Science is itself a
methodology: a way to go about understanding a phenomena or resolving a
problem. Science is applied to many disciplines, especially to those
we call the "physical and life sciences" as the scientific methodology
has worked rema

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