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| Subject: | Re: [gislist] Protocol for citing sources of data? - an example |
| Date: |
01/15/2007 12:30:00 PM |
| From: |
Jeremy Olynik |
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Thanks for your replies on this matter Dick and Andrea. You give a good
example Andrea!
I didn't want to give the impression that I wanted to "get away with"
anything, or "re-engineer the stolen car".
What I was trying to get at is what Andrea mentioned with the
derivative/updated data. I would have thought that this would be a very
common question among GIS'ers.
Thanks again!
>From: "andrea giacomelli" <pibinko@gmail.com>
>To: gislist@lists.geocomm.com
>Subject: Re: [gislist] Protocol for citing sources of data? - an example
>Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 10:20:27 +0100
>
>Jeremy,
>
>As far as I know, there is no general consenus on the topic you pose - but
>rather than looking for consesus you should inquire with licensing
>typologies for data, remembering that data providers have done the same
>before you.
>
>Also, in my opinion, the question you pose is too open to get you a
>straight
>reply, and the community may think you are trying to re-engineer stolen
>cars.
>
>In an different (and more positive) interpretation I can give to your
>question, I would rather think you are trying to understand how to expose
>and provide proper acknowledgement for processing you may perform on a
>given
>data set, to produce "derivative"/updated data.
>
>An example:
>you acquire a data package from a provide, including a road network, place
>name data, and land use for the region where you live, because you need it
>for a presentation, and you want to save time to prepare some maps.
>
>you load the data on your beautiful preferred viewer, and you note blatant
>errors in the spelling of place names, and even more interesting errors in
>land use (specifically, a 2000 square km natural park area is classified as
>"urban").
>
>but you need to have the correct data, for your presentation! T.B.I.C.!
>(the
>boss is coming...he signed the purchase order for the data set, and he
>lives
>right next to the park which the map does not show)...you need to do
>something...
>
>you integrate the data sets by correcting the data (e.g. fix spelling
>issues
>in place names, which have not been attentively QA/QCed by the data
>provider, as this lives in a country different than yours).
>
>....you have modified the data, with original work....would that make the
>whole data set yours ?....I don't think so.
>
>but *the updates* are your original work, so you should again look into
>your
>preferred way to "protect" it...(copyleft, copyright etc. etc. etc.).
>
>if the changes you propose are significant, there well may be a case to
>talk
>to the data provider and see if you can get an acknowledgement for this...
>
>...your case may still be different, but I hope this discussion helps as
>food for thought.
>
>regards to all
>
>andrea giacomelli
>http://pibinko.altervista.org
>
>p.s. a good set metadata with updated lineage information will not hurt, in
>any case.
>p.p.s. the example presented above refers to an actual business case which
>we had in a project in 2001....if anybody is interested to know how the
>story went, I'll be glad to share the ending.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <DickBoyd@aol.com>
>To: <jeremy_olynik@hotmail.com>: < gislist@lists.geocomm.com>
>Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 4:26 PM
>Subject: Re: [gislist] Protocol for citing sources of data?
>
>
> >
> > In a message dated 1/12/2007 9:21:17 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> > jeremy_olynik@hotmail.com writes:
> >
> > I'm wondering if there is a general consensus out there when it comes
>to
> > the
> >
> > issue of having to reference sources of data and what constitutes
> > ownership
> > of data. At what point do we no longer have to cite the source of, for
> > example, imagery. How much do we have to change the appearance or
> > composition of a data layer (vector layer) in order for it to become an
> > original and no longer someone else's work?
> >
> >
> >
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