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| Subject: | Re: [gislist] Protocol for citing sources of data? - an example |
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01/16/2007 04:00:01 AM |
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wolfe |
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Jeremey,
I'm going to come at your question from a slightly different direction. My
purpose for citing sources is two fold: 1. I want to give credit where
credit is due (didn't plagerize)and I want to show the validity of my data
sets and the analysis based upon them (I used data at the appropriate scale
and from a reliable source).
Much of the work I'm currently doing is used by scientists that know nothing
about GIS or cartography. Their back ground is in chemistry, soil science,
hydrology, etc... That's their area of expertise. However, the maps I
generate are used as an integral part of their decision making process and
they need to know that the data is reliable and that the analysis I have
provided them can be defended if need be.
Kathy Wolfe
Wolfe Geographics
Custom Cartography and GIS
www.wolfegeographics.com
-----Original Message-----
From: gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com
[mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Olynik
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 1:29 PM
To: pibinko@gmail.com: gislist@lists.geocomm.com
Subject: Re: [gislist] Protocol for citing sources of data? - an example
Thanks for your replies on this matter Dick and Andrea. You give a good
example Andrea!
I didn't want to give the impression that I wanted to "get away with"
anything, or "re-engineer the stolen car".
What I was trying to get at is what Andrea mentioned with the
derivative/updated data. I would have thought that this would be a very
common question among GIS'ers.
Thanks again!
>From: "andrea giacomelli" <pibinko@gmail.com>
>To: gislist@lists.geocomm.com
>Subject: Re: [gislist] Protocol for citing sources of data? - an
>example
>Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 10:20:27 +0100
>
>Jeremy,
>
>As far as I know, there is no general consenus on the topic you pose -
>but rather than looking for consesus you should inquire with licensing
>typologies for data, remembering that data providers have done the same
>before you.
>
>Also, in my opinion, the question you pose is too open to get you a
>straight
>reply, and the community may think you are trying to re-engineer stolen
>cars.
>
>In an different (and more positive) interpretation I can give to your
>question, I would rather think you are trying to understand how to
>expose and provide proper acknowledgement for processing you may
>perform on a given data set, to produce "derivative"/updated data.
>
>An example:
>you acquire a data package from a provide, including a road network,
>place name data, and land use for the region where you live, because
>you need it for a presentation, and you want to save time to prepare
>some maps.
>
>you load the data on your beautiful preferred viewer, and you note
>blatant errors in the spelling of place names, and even more
>interesting errors in land use (specifically, a 2000 square km natural
>park area is classified as "urban").
>
>but you need to have the correct data, for your presentation! T.B.I.C.!
>(the
>boss is coming...he signed the purchase order for the data set, and he
>lives
>right next to the park which the map does not show)...you need to do
>something...
>
>you integrate the data sets by correcting the data (e.g. fix spelling
>issues
>in place names, which have not been attentively QA/QCed by the data
>provider, as this lives in a country different than yours).
>
>....you have modified the data, with original work....would that make
>the whole data set yours ?....I don't think so.
>
>but *the updates* are your original work, so you should again look into
>your
>preferred way to "protect" it...(copyleft, copyright etc. etc. etc.).
>
>if the changes you propose are significant, there well may be a case to
>talk
>to the data provider and see if you can get an acknowledgement for this...
>
>...your case may still be different, but I hope this discussion helps
>as food for thought.
>
>regards to all
>
>andrea giacomelli
>http://pibinko.altervista.org
>
>p.s. a good set metadata with updated lineage information will not
>hurt, in any case. p.p.s. the example presented above refers to an
>actual business case which we had in a project in 2001....if anybody is
>interested to know how the story went, I'll be glad to share the
>ending.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <DickBoyd@aol.com>
>To: <jeremy_olynik@hotmail.com>: < gislist@lists.geocomm.com>
>Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 4:26 PM
>Subject: Re: [gislist] Protocol for citing sources of data?
>
>
> >
> > In a message dated 1/12/2007 9:21:17 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> > jeremy_olynik@hotmail.com wri
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