|
|
| GeoCommunity Mailing List |
| |
| Mailing List Archives |
| Subject: | Re: [gislist] AutoCAD and GIS |
| Date: |
04/19/2007 10:10:00 AM |
| From: |
Wafula, Juliana |
|
|
We don't use AutoCAD but use Microstation which would be similar.
Our GIS system is Microstation Geographics with all the data is stored
in ORACLE Spatial database. All the designing for construction drawings
is done in Microstation that gets its data from ORACLE Spatial. There
are a lot of batch routines that run on the backend, transparent to the
user that extract the ORACLE Spatial data to a Microstation format. The
refresh time is anything from 10 minutes to 3 hours depending on network
traffic.
Similarly for the data input, all done in Microstation Geographics
(which is basic Microstation with some GIS functionality) and as they
work using CAD commands, all the data is posted back to the ORACLE
Spatial. The ORACLE Spatial controls the versioning, the check in, check
out, auditing and any QC rules that have been set up.
This way we have CAD quality GIS facilities.
-----Original Message-----
From: gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com
[mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com] On Behalf Of
morghema@talutil.com
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 6:13 AM
To: gislist@lists.geocomm.com
Subject: Re: [gislist] AutoCAD and GIS
We have tried AutoDesk Map 3D 2007. The issue is that the FDO provider
for SDE only connects to default. Version management is privative if non
existent.
Connecting to multiple DSN does not work. If you are not the version
owner you can't connect. In our disturbed environment we can only edit
children of a master version of which the master was made from the
default version. I have heard the Map 3D 2008 will be a little better.
I could not find anyone who successfully implemented this as a solution.
I have been trying to speak to the reps at AutoDesk to discuss this and
AutoDesk BuzzSaw further.
Quoting Tripp Corbin <tcorbin@keckwood.com>:
> The newest versions of AutoDesk Map, Land Desktop and Civil 3D can
> connect directly to ArcSDE Geodatabases. From that connection they can
> check out and check in data. You might want to look at that as an
> option. It would allow the engineers to design using the software that
> works best for them and also keep your GIS database current.
>
> Tripp Corbin, MCP, CFM, GISP
> Associate Vice President, GIS/Mapping
> ESRI Authorized Instructor
> Keck & Wood, Inc.
> www.keckwood.com
> (678) 417-4013
> (678) 417-8785 fax
>
> Keck & Wood, Inc offers instructor led and virtual training for ESRI's
> ArcGIS & ArcView software.
> Please visit www.keckwood.com for more information including a
> schedule of upcoming classes.
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com on behalf of
> morghema@talutil.com
> Sent: Wed 4/18/2007 10:03 PM
> To: gislist@lists.geocomm.com
> Subject: [gislist] AutoCAD and GIS
>
>
>
> Hello List,
>
> Is there any engineering organization out there that receives AutoCAD
> drawings as a source, adds their own design, manages the construction
> of the design and ultimately maintains the assets within their GIS?
>
> We use AutoCAD and ESRI ArcMap 9.1 but to this day I have
> unsuccessfully streamlined our workflow processes from engineering
design onward.
>
> I have tried everything from M&M ArcFM designer, designing in ArcMap
> from the get go with outstanding versions, using workflow tools, using
> project management tools, etc...
>
> My major obstacles are:
> My engineers don't like designing in ArcMap, it is slow and cumbersome
> for them.
> ArcMap is very network heavy and in our current environment, any
> little blip causes our system to crash.
>
> We get our developer drawings in AutoCAD and generally they want them
> back in that format. We can export or generate prints for them but the
> extra strokes are not cost efficient.
>
> Our current configuration (biweekly creation of new masters off of
> default)does not support long transactions with versions outstanding
> past two weeks. This was done to try and make our data more reliable
> as we were having issues with outstanding versions and data integrity.
>
> I have yet to successfully figure out the ability to create a cost
> estimate from a drawing, whether through compatible units or objects
> linked to an inventory list.
>
>
> My bandage now is:
>
> Using an online project management software (AceProjects.com) to
> manage each of our construction projects. At least now I can track the
> progress and have my GIS editors put the projects into GIS as soon as
> a design is made.
> The project
> is then tracked accordingly throughout its life cycle.
>
>
>
>
> Any feedback or other use cases would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
> AM
>
> Tallahassee Gas Utilities
>
>
>
> _____________________________
|
|
Sponsored by:
For information
regarding
advertising rates
Click Here!
|
