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Subject: Re: [gislist] AutoCAD and GIS
Date:  04/19/2007 01:25:01 PM
From:  Tripp Corbin



We are in the process of testing Map 2008 with ArcSDE with versions to
see if it will work. Haestad Methods (now Bentley) had a product call
GIS Connect that would allow you to connect to and edit ESRI data inside
of AutoCAD. It did this by pulling the ArcGIS engine into AutoCAD.
Unfortunately it required you to have both AutoCAD and ArcGIS loaded on
your machine. I am not sure if Bentley has continued with this product.


Tripp Corbin, MCP, CFM, GISP
Associate Vice President, GIS/Mapping
ESRI Authorized Instructor
Keck & Wood, Inc.
www.keckwood.com
(678) 417-4013
(678) 417-8785 fax

Keck & Wood, Inc offers instructor led and virtual training for ESRI's
ArcGIS & ArcView software.
Please visit www.keckwood.com for more information including a schedule
of upcoming classes.


-----Original Message-----
From: gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com
[mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com] On Behalf Of
morghema@talutil.com
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 8:13 AM
To: gislist@lists.geocomm.com
Subject: Re: [gislist] AutoCAD and GIS


We have tried AutoDesk Map 3D 2007. The issue is that the FDO provider
for SDE
only connects to default. Version management is privative if non
existent. Connecting to multiple DSN does not work. If you are not the
version owner you can't connect. In our disturbed environment we can
only edit children of a master version of which the master was made from
the default version. I have heard the Map 3D 2008 will be a little
better. I could not find anyone who successfully implemented this as a
solution. I have been trying to
speak to the
reps at AutoDesk to discuss this and AutoDesk BuzzSaw further.


Quoting Tripp Corbin <tcorbin@keckwood.com>:

> The newest versions of AutoDesk Map, Land Desktop and Civil 3D can
> connect directly to ArcSDE Geodatabases. From that connection they
> can check out and check in data. You might want to look at that as an
> option. It would allow the engineers to design using the software
> that works best for them and also keep your GIS database current.
>
> Tripp Corbin, MCP, CFM, GISP
> Associate Vice President, GIS/Mapping
> ESRI Authorized Instructor
> Keck & Wood, Inc.
> www.keckwood.com
> (678) 417-4013
> (678) 417-8785 fax
>
> Keck & Wood, Inc offers instructor led and virtual training for
> ESRI's ArcGIS & ArcView software.
> Please visit www.keckwood.com for more information including a
> schedule of upcoming classes.
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com on behalf of
> morghema@talutil.com
> Sent: Wed 4/18/2007 10:03 PM
> To: gislist@lists.geocomm.com
> Subject: [gislist] AutoCAD and GIS
>
>
>
> Hello List,
>
> Is there any engineering organization out there that receives AutoCAD
> drawings
> as a source, adds their own design, manages the construction of the
> design and
> ultimately maintains the assets within their GIS?
>
> We use AutoCAD and ESRI ArcMap 9.1 but to this day I have
> unsuccessfully streamlined our workflow processes from engineering
> design onward.
>
> I have tried everything from M&M ArcFM designer, designing in ArcMap
> from the get go with outstanding versions, using workflow tools, using

> project management tools, etc...
>
> My major obstacles are:
> My engineers don't like designing in ArcMap, it is slow and
> cumbersome for them.
> ArcMap is very network heavy and in our current environment, any
little blip
> causes our system to crash.
>
> We get our developer drawings in AutoCAD and generally they want them
> back in that format. We can export or generate prints for them but the

> extra strokes are not cost efficient.
>
> Our current configuration (biweekly creation of new masters off of
> default)does
> not support long transactions with versions outstanding past two
weeks. This
> was done to try and make our data more reliable as we were having
issues with
> outstanding versions and data integrity.
>
> I have yet to successfully figure out the ability to create a cost
> estimate from
> a drawing, whether through compatible units or objects linked to an
inventory
> list.
>
>
> My bandage now is:
>
> Using an online project management software (AceProjects.com) to
> manage each of
> our construction projects. At least now I can track the progress and
have my
> GIS editors put the projects into GIS as soon as a design is made.
> The project
> is then tracked accordingly throughout its life cycle.
>
>
>
>
> Any feedback or other use cases would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
> AM
>
> Tallahassee Gas Utilities
>
>
>
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