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Subject: Re: [gislist] Recent Discussions and more...
Date:  10/22/2007 04:45:00 AM
From:  wolfe



Margaret,
Thank you for saying what so many of us have been thinking! I agree hole
heartedly.

Kathy Wolfe
Wolfe Geographics, LLC

-----Original Message-----
From: gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com
[mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Gooding
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 9:16 PM
To: Jaime Bozza: gislist@lists.geocomm.com
Subject: Re: [gislist] Recent Discussions and more...


I have been a member of the list for several years. I am an ESRI
product user (for 9 years) - I have used other products, but did not
like them. I find out new tips for how to do something once in
awhile. I also try to help others when I can. I don't see why this
should be a problem. Even ESRI specific questions may have wider
appeal since many of the techniques are similar (or at least the
reasoning behind them) to other software packages.

I agree that this should not be a forum for people trying to sell
their stuff (if that is all they are doing). I like an e-mail list
such as this one (rather than a discussion board). ESRI's on-line
support doesn't always have what one is looking for, though they are
pretty good. Why can't we have both? Why are there so many adamant
anti-ESRI folks on the list (at least vocal ones)? I personally like
ESRI products for the most part, though we do find bugs on occasion.
Those of us who are ESRI users could say the same about other
product's users who use this forum (what is so good about Manifold or
MapInfo or similar?) regarding software specific questions. I say,
bring on all questions, within reason. Someone should not be asking
for illegal assistance (cracked software), or trying to sell stuff,
but all other GIS related questions or discussions should be allowed.

Margaret Gooding
GIS/Graphics Specialist

At 10:02 AM 10/18/2007, Jaime Bozza wrote:

>With the recent thread regarding "cracked" software, I wanted to open
>up a discussion regarding this list with respect to moderation and
>general policies. I'd like to work toward some more formal policies
>for the list without infringing on the ability to post opinions and
>thoughts that may not necessarily be agreeable to all. Obviously,
>there are a lot of different people on this list with many different
>levels of skill and I think that will always allow for helpful and (at
>times) very interesting and lively discussions.
>
>First of all, I want to say that I did see the message come through and
>I specifically waited to gather reaction from list members before I did
>anything. I do *not* want to turn this list into a completely
>moderated list. Unfortunately, to stop these messages from ever being
>posted would require full moderation and I think that would start to
>overly restrict the general flow of the list and perhaps even hurt the
>freedom that has been enjoyed by this list. That being said, I have
>already set this user's access to be moderated and will not allow
>additional messages coming from this person without verifying that the
>content is appropriate. Discussions about anything illegal (software
>piracy and
>more) will not be tolerated and I'm sure most of the people on this list
>will agree. Personally I don't mind someone criticizing a message (and
>the person) and even having a little fun here or there, but at the same
>time I want to get people's opinions on this. How far do you think we
>should go to moderate threads such as these and the list in general?
>What subjects and types of messages do you think should be allowed or
>disallowed?
>
>For instance, what are your thoughts about any of these:
>
>1) Obvious sales-type messages. For instance, a list poster that's an
>owner of a software company that replies to each message attempting to
>sell their particular software product.
>
>2) Obvious marketing or advertising messages. For instance, events
>(including coursework or seminars) that require a fee to attend, with
>the intent to freely advertise to the people on the list.
>
>3) Job postings, press releases, or anything else that is posted by a
>company that is marketing or advertising only for that company and
>doesn't generally offer any type of real discussion.
>
>
>Also, I've followed many of the discussions about what specifically
>this list should discuss. For instance, specific help on products
>(ESRI or
>otherwise) - Do you feel this is an appropriate forum? Should this be a
>list more for general discussions and not specific product support?
>Would
>
>I've also seen people recommend using Google or some other product to
>transform a list into something more of a discussion board. How do you
>feel abo

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